"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
08/06/2020 at 11:02 • Filed to: None
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"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone)
08/06/2020 at 11:02 • Filed to: None | 3
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You will all be missed.
And I hope all the people who lost their jobs because of those closures, will find new ones.
We feel for you.
You proved that you are essential for our society.
ranwhenparked
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:15 |
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And restaurants are usually the easiest business for recent immigrants to start up, as their first major step up the economic ladder. The big corporate chains are going to mostly come out of this more or less intact, it’s the independent mom and pop places that are going to die, and those are the people that might not be able to come back from the blow, since they have basically everything tied up into their business.
Also, higher end gourmet places in areas with high rent, and also a lot of foot traffic from local office workers, those places are gone, too.
Hope everyone likes Applebees and McDonalds, ‘cause that’s what we’ll have left.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:16 |
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At least two in my town are honing to be shuttered soon. And a third that was supposed to open te summer
This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:18 |
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:19 |
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Is there really society without the social aspect of it?
Sure hope we’re back to normal life by 2021...
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 11:20 |
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Good encouragement to contact the small, struggling,
family-owned places
you love, get some take-out,
and see if they’d offer private catering from time-to-time.
Just Jeepin'
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 11:27 |
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Fall 2021 is my best guess, but at this point it’s a crapshoot.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:27 |
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Do they allow takeout?
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ranwhenparked
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 11:30 |
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Yep, I’ve been making a point of eating out as much as possible lately, and those are the places I’m going to.
I used to work in business banking for a large commercial bank, and I remember we had a hard rule against lending to restaurants and bars, with very rare exceptions (if the owner had other businesses with a long established relationship with us, or a substantial amount of personal assets to pledge as collateral), but we probably rejected 900+ out of every 1,000 loan applications we got, and that was in a booming economy. If banks considered restaurateurs too risky to lend to before the government ordered every restaurant to close indefinitely , they’re going to be treated like lepers coming out of this. Going to be very, very hard for people to start up new businesses to replace the ones going under.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 11:35 |
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Yeah, it’s really sad.
There are just way too many families who put everything they had into growing
their small business, won’t make it through this, and will never recover financially.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> Just Jeepin'
08/06/2020 at 11:37 |
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Hoping we’ll have an effective vaccine soon. Lots of positive news on this front, but still takes time.
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El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 11:45 |
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Tripper
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 11:50 |
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Such a tough spot for restaurants. Business is way down, hard to keep staff, regulations making it even harder to do business when you can be open , and your patrons are shifting...
The three of us used to go out to dinner 3-4 times a week at least. Out to brunch with friends at least once on the weekend. We were out the last night restaurants were open and thought we’d be the first ones back.
We tried it once and it was super weird feeling. Since it isn’t fun or relaxing anymore it seems like an unnecessary risk. It’s not just the restaurant experience either. It used to be F riday night out to dinner with the family, maybe breeze through a few shops on the walk, have dinner and a few drinks, maybe walk down and get ice cream after...
Right now in PA you can’t drink unless you are “eating” and you have to leave when you’re done your meal on top of it already being mask world..
Meanwhile , both of us have added a lot of receipies to our cook books and my wife has a small farm going in the back yard. We have been doing all that and more with the hundreds per month that we’re no longer spending on dining out.
I have a feeling it will be very difficult to pull that kind of money out of the budget again for something like that. Like a car loan, real hard to swallow a payment when you haven’t had one in a while.
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 11:51 |
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But I thought Taco Bell won the great
Franchise Wars
?
Edit: beaten to it “This is what we’ll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja’s posts”. That’s what I get for not reading all the comments first.
DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 12:00 |
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I still don’t get how the narrative jumped
from “just flatten the curve” to we need a vaccine before things can go back to normal.
BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 12:01 |
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Demolition Man is looking more and more realistic every day.
AMGtech - now with more recalls!
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 12:03 |
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Applebee’s and McDonald’s? No no no. Taco Bell wins the franchise wars. Prolific documentarist Sylvester Stallone taught us this.
Your boy, BJR
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 12:05 |
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Once my unemployment kicked in and I had money (and my place re opened and I now have income again), I literally haven’t made a single meal at home. As someone in the restaurant industry of a seasonal resort area, June-august is when we make what we have to survive on for the year. I basically only go to locally owned places too. Where I live has some of the best and most diverse casual dining, and I wanna do my best to keep it going, as I know my fellow restaurant employees are doing for me. It’s a bit expensive but I’m making more than usual thanks to my restaurant now having a takeout window and me making tips now, but I’m worried about this winter.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
08/06/2020 at 12:09 |
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We reacted too slowly and not seriously enough, reopened too quickly, and political assholery resulted in far too many not taking it seriously (and still don’t).
Our president: You can wear a mask, I’m not going to, it’s optional.
WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 12:13 |
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This is h onestly one of the most aggravating thing for me personally during all of this. Going out to eat and meeting with friends and family is normally a HUGE part of my life. Even more so in the summer.
Because of this, I’ve gotten to know quite a few staff members at a lot of different locations around the area, and talking to them know just sucks.
I’ve been able to help a few find other jobs, but just the fact that I’ll never be able to walk back into some of the bars and restaurants is a damn shame.
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This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 12:20 |
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The best kind of society. Virtual.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
08/06/2020 at 12:22 |
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While I’m thankful for this virtual society here on OPPO, it’s just not healthy to live one’s whole life through a screen.
fintail
> DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever
08/06/2020 at 13:19 |
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Probably because too many deplorable shitbags are refusing to do their part to flatten the curve.
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fintail
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 13:22 |
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That’s the big issue in my neighborhood, where more people work than live. No (often well-paid) office workers = probably 90% less business. I know of at least 2 places on my jogging route that are now gone.
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ranwhenparked
> fintail
08/06/2020 at 13:34 |
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I'm expecting Center City, Philadelphia to be a ghost town after this, similar to what it was in the '70s and '80s, maybe worse. R2L at Liberty Place is already dead, I just hope Butcher & Singer hangs on - not many restaurants have Beef Wellington and Baked Alaska on the menu these days, and they do both well
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fintail
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 13:44 |
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There’s a bit of nice higher end retail in my area, so I suspect something will continue, but I don’t know how the restaurants will do without the office workers, as WFH is probably going to become an indefinite new normal. I feel bad for not ordering more, but I’ve never really been into that much, and battling the COVID 19 (pounds) is hard enough as it is.
What gets me is new Class A office towers are still going up - stuff planned pre-pandemic, of course, I can’t imagine these are going to be filled anytime soon. Of course, if you have the money of these bootstrapping property developers, you can afford to play the long game, and if it doesn’t pan out , socialize the losses.
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ranwhenparked
> fintail
08/06/2020 at 14:15 |
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Sometimes, it costs more to cancel a project already in progress than to just finish it and sit on it, I expect new construction starts will be way down, though. I've never been big on takeout/delivery myself, too much of what's enjoyable about the dining experience is actually being in the restaurant. One of the things I do hope happens, though, is that as restaurants tighten their belts a bit, portion sizes are reduced to saner levels. I can't remember the last time I finished everything on my plate at a casual dining type place, and always feel guilty throwing food out when I don't have a way to save the leftovers. Quality >quantity, they aren't the same thing and don't have to go hand in hand.
Textured Soy Protein
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 14:21 |
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I think we’re going to see a huge contraction among locally-owned independent places. BUT at least once the world is (hopefully) right side up again, I’m pretty confident people will once again invest in opening up new, locally-owned independent places. There’s a certain allure to the restaurant business, even if the reality is it’s fucking brutal, and while what happened to it during covid will certainly make for less people looking to start up new restaurants, I don’t think that desire will go away entirely.
At the beginning of all this mess, we took locking down super serious, bought enough groceries to last at least 3-4 weeks completely on our own making all our meals. I still don’t want to go shopping a lot but my trips have been more frequent, and we’re doing more takeout. It’s not back to our pre-covid frequency but here and there.
If at all possible I try to leave a big tip for the restaurant when I get takeout. One of my favorite Chinese places, they didn’t have me sign the card receipt and when I offered them an extra $20 cash they waved it off like thanks but no thanks we don’t want it.
ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
08/06/2020 at 14:25 |
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Absolutely agree this truly is a shame. Will also admit that we’re being more careful about exposure than most due to some health concerns - so even the take-out that we do is extremely limited, and only stuff we can easily re-heat (par-baked pizzas, thai food we zap in the microwave as soon as it arrives, etc.).
We are also getting sick of our rotation of cooked meals and having to cook everyday (absolute privile ge, I know) so would be happy to give our business to more places that are able to offer more “take home/reheat” friendly meals. I’ve seen one local restaurant offering boxes that you take and throw in your oven to finish cooking, was super excited about doing ...tried and costs $90 for a meal for two (this was like a half chicken and 2 basic sides) . WTF.
I don’t need anything fancy (and it wasn’t, per above ). I hope more restaurants are able to offer easier and more affordable menu choices that are angled towards being re-vitalized/finished heating at home, given that this mess isn’t something we’re going to be fully out of the woods from for a while longer.
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ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 14:29 |
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On the vaccine front, will admit that the way this is going the gubmit is doing a hell of a job making vaccine skeptics (I don’t want to say antivaxxers) out of otherwise completely reasonable people. My wife - a frigging cancer researcher/bioengineer - included. This is what happens when agencies like the CDC and FDA are politicized, and pressured to push agendas that the government finds helpful, instead of letting the scientific research follow its course.
I hope the agencies are able to recover from this and take the messaging back, go through enough peer review, show that there has been sufficient clinical trial data on vaccine safety, etc. to help ease peoples’ minds.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/06/2020 at 14:53 |
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Yes, there is and will be a serious trust gap for way too many governmental agencies following this administration.
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fintail
> ranwhenparked
08/06/2020 at 14:57 |
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Definitely, all of this stuff started before March, no turning back now. I had an idea that it could be turned into housing (as there’s a sharp affordable housing crisis here) , but the costs would probably be immense, and really, I don’t know how many would want to live in the specific area if they didn’t have to go to work nearby - it is pretty, but dull, in that modern manufactured suburban way.
Part of my eating out problem is I have kind of a juvenile palate - in a restaurant I will have a simple sandwich and unhealthy side, and mostly really prefer pizza, no such thing as sensible portion size there lol. I have the guilt thing too - if Red Robin brings me a trough of fries, can’t have many thrown away.
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ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 15:03 |
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Forever the optimist, with that suggestion (I think) that this administration’s days are numbered :)
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/06/2020 at 15:08 |
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Let’s hope so. We’ve all suffered enough.
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ZHP Sparky, the 5th
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/06/2020 at 16:16 |
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Amen. Did you watch the Axios interview? It took me about 3 sittings to get through it, was painful. But think it’s important for everyone to see just how unfit he is.
We can’t even start to discuss policy positions because he can’t even agree on baseline facts and logic. One minute he’s saying we’re testing more than anyone else, which is why our infections look bad. OK..fine, then we look at deaths, and for that he says deaths per capita makes no sense, but instead we should be looking at deaths as a percentage of tests (which he literally just said we’re testing too much compared to others, so it skews perception). And he sees no fault in his argument.
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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> ZHP Sparky, the 5th
08/06/2020 at 16:33 |
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I did - what a nightmare.
He’s completely unfit, not to mention every other reason he never should have been elected president.
Interestingly, the Electoral College, the thing all Ds now hate and want abolished, was originally put in place to avoid electing someone like him. Under the system, our individual votes never actually would have
gone
to elect a president, but only to choose
an elector, who would then select the person they thought should be president.
Clearly, it hasn’t worked out as initially intended, but it’s not going anywhere, because the Rs
will never give up the advantage it gives them.